Oh, I’m sure this is going to work out well
"Insurgencies need progress to survive, and this insurgency is not progressing."
The B*sh junta is frantically producing spin about how the invasion of Iraq is going soooo well that why, it's just about time to get all of the troops out, nevermind the 800+ civilian casualties a month, the increased sophistication of the attacks and the now-commonplace kamikaze attacks in a country which had none of them before the Coward in Chief started his unprovoked aggressive war against the state of Iraq.
Not, of course, that those troops will actually return to the United States. Iran has shown itself to have sufficiently bloody hands to not be attacked, but there are still a few secular states that need to have their governments replaced with Khomeini-style religious dictatorships, but the popular support for the war is fading in the United States now, so it's time to force the puppet government to sign a few agreements giving the US government immunity for all of the torture, rape, and murder that the B*sh junta has ordered, then raise the yellow flag of victory and scamper, with unseemly haste, over the border into the next splendid little war.
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Whoops... Forgot to share this disturbing little observation: I saw a bumper sticker on the back of a small pick-up truck that read, "God bless President Bush and our troops."
Yep. If that isn't yet another sure sign we are careening over the deep end, I don't know what is.
«I fear that an American pullout without securing Iraq is a sure-fire recipe for disaster that will haunt us for ages.»
I'm a lot more pessimistic than you are. It's quite possible that the presence of United States troops in Iraq could be used to stabilize the country long enough for it to unmangle itself from 30 years of Baathist thuggery and 2 years of US thuggery, but that would require an intelligent United States government.
The present government, which, modulo a second US civil war, the United States will be stuck with until at least 2008, considers Iraq (and Afghanistan. Don't forget Afghanistan!) as nothing more than a couple of troughs that their well-connected buddies can slurp up obscene quantities of money from. They have no interest in actually solving anything, because that would mean they'd need to find a new excuse for looting the treasury.
So, if the polls start hurting them, hand over the country to a puppet government, then bolt over the border. And, you know, Syria is a bunch of bad guys; they've been known to torture (on a cost-plus consulting basis with the United States government, so we've got the invoices) prisoners, so our brave leaders have their own little casus belli right there. And, given any luck, the puppet government will last long enough so that the helicopters lifting out of the green zone won't happen until a Democratic president is in office.
Not mincing words. Parson, you're a fucking asshole, and if a second US civil war brews, I'd be leaving the US pronto if I were you!
FUCK YOU
So you think I should put up a paypal button so I can solicit emigration contributions from insecure people like you? I think I'd need about US$25,000 to move to Canada (about $5000 for visa and background fees, and about $20,000 in the bank to prove that I can live there for six months without going on the dole [a reasonable demand for an emigrant who's not fleeing persecution. Regrettably, threats of GBH by anonymous cowards don't count, so I don't have that excuse. But if you'll give me US$25,000 for emigration purposes, I will certainly promise to have an application on the way to the Canadian embassy within a week of receiving your money]) and it would probably cost around the same to emigrate to any other civilized country. That is a lot of money, you know, and I'd be quite happy to Barnum money from you any day of the week.
Send me pvt email, and I'll give you my post office box number so you can send me a check.
Have fun in Canada PRICK, which just moved to the right. Better idea, continue on to Europe. They love fucking losers like you.
No, no, no, you don’t get it. What you do is
- Write me pvt e-mail volunteering to underwrite my departure from the American Imperium.
- Send me a check for the amount of money it would take to get me a migrant visa (for Canada, it's something in the ballpark of US$4000)
- Wait until Canada sends me the migrant visa.
- (finally) _Try_ to gloat.
And if you’re going to send me email volunteering to underwrite my migration, you need to go through the comcast mail servers instead of doing it directly from your PC. Now, shoo, go back to go and try again.
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Geez, Parsons, why do you hate America?
Do you think a certain upcoming mid-term election date is looming large in somebody's head? Nothing motivates a politician more than the prospect of losing an election.
As much as I oppose Bush's war, and want the troops home, and would love nothing better than a big ol' Church committee investigation to expose this president's lies that took us there, and a nice impeachment and trial of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of that sorry lot, I fear that an American pullout without securing Iraq is a sure-fire recipe for disaster that will haunt us for ages.